Plato, Gorgias, section 462c

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[462c]

Socrates
A thing which you say—in the treatise which I read of late—“made art.”

Polus
What thing do you mean?

Socrates
I mean a certain habitude.

Polus
Then do you take rhetoric to be a habitude?

Socrates
I do, if you have no other suggestion.

Polus
Habitude of what?

Socrates
Of producing a kind of gratification and pleasure.

Polus
Then you take rhetoric to be something fine—an ability to gratify people?

Socrates
How now, Polus? Have you as yet heard me tell you

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.

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