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and to be able to make anyone else a rhetorician, tell me with what particular thing rhetoric is concerned: as, for example, weaving is concerned with the manufacture of clothes, is it not?Gorgias
Yes.Socrates
And music, likewise, with the making of tunes?Gorgias
Yes.Socrates
Upon my word, Gorgias, I do admire your answers! You make them as brief as they well can be.Gorgias
Yes, Socrates, I consider myself a very fair hand at that.Socrates
You are right there. Come now, answer me in the same way about rhetoric: with what particular thing is its skill concerned?Gorgias
With speech.
Yes.Socrates
And music, likewise, with the making of tunes?Gorgias
Yes.Socrates
Upon my word, Gorgias, I do admire your answers! You make them as brief as they well can be.Gorgias
Yes, Socrates, I consider myself a very fair hand at that.Socrates
You are right there. Come now, answer me in the same way about rhetoric: with what particular thing is its skill concerned?Gorgias
With speech.