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cause pleasure?Certainly, he said.So when I put it to you, whether things are not good in so far as they are pleasant, I am asking whether pleasure itself is not a good thing.Let us examine the matter, Socrates, he said, in the form in which you put it at each point, and if the proposition seems to be reasonable, and pleasant and good are found to be the same, we shall agree upon it; if not, we shall dispute it there and then.And would you like, I asked, to be leader in the inquiry, or am I to lead?You ought to lead, he replied, since you are the inaugurator of this discussion.Well then,
Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.
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