Plato, Alcibiades 1, section 125d

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[125d] and who lead the singing and make use of dancers?

Alcibiades
No, no.

Socrates
Because, again, that is the chorus-teacher's function?

Alcibiades
To be sure.

Socrates
But whatever do you mean by being able to rule over men who make use of men?

Alcibiades
I mean ruling over men in the city who share in it as fellow-citizens, and do business with each other.

Socrates
Well, what art is this? Suppose I should ask you over again, as I did just now, what art makes men know how to rule over fellow-sailors?

Alcibiades
The pilot's.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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