[403a]
Or it may be that from his shaking he was called the Shaker (ὁ σείων), and the pi and delta are additions. As for Pluto, he was so named as the giver of wealth (πλοῦτος), because wealth comes up from below out of the earth. And Hades—I fancy most people think that this is a name of the Invisible (ἀειδής), so they are afraid and call him Pluto.
[403b]
Hermogenes
And what do you think yourself, Socrates?Socrates
I think people have many false notions about the power of this god, and are unduly afraid of him. They are afraid because when we are once dead we remain in his realm for ever, and they are also terrified because the soul goes to him without the covering of the body. But I think all these facts, and the office and the name of the god, point in the same direction.Hermogenes
How so? [403c] Socrates
I will tell you my own view. Please answer this question: Which is the stronger bond upon any living being to keep him in any one place, desire, or compulsion?Hermogenes
Desire, Socrates, is much stronger.Socrates
Then do you not believe there would be many fugitives from Hades, if he did not bind with the strongest bond those who go to him there?Hermogenes
Of course there would.Socrates
Apparently, then, if he binds them with the strongest bond, he binds them by some kind of desire, not by compulsion.Hermogenes
Yes, that is plain.Socrates
There are many desires, are there not?Hermogenes
Yes. [403d] Socrates
Then he binds with the desire which is the strongest of all, if he is to restrain them with the strongest bond.Hermogenes
Yes.Socrates
And is there any desire stronger than the thought of being made a better man by association with some one?Hermogenes
No, by Zeus, Socrates, there certainly is not.Socrates
Then, Hermogenes, we must believe that this is the reason why no one has been willing to come away from that other world, not even the Sirens, but they and all others have been overcome by his enchantments, [403e] so beautiful, as it appears, are the words which Hades has the power to speak; and from this point of view this god is a perfect sophist and a great benefactor of those in his realm, he who also bestows such great blessings upon us who are on earth; such abundance surrounds him there below, and for this reason he is called Pluto. Then, too, he refuses to consort with men while they have bodies, but only accepts their society
And what do you think yourself, Socrates?Socrates
I think people have many false notions about the power of this god, and are unduly afraid of him. They are afraid because when we are once dead we remain in his realm for ever, and they are also terrified because the soul goes to him without the covering of the body. But I think all these facts, and the office and the name of the god, point in the same direction.Hermogenes
How so? [403c] Socrates
I will tell you my own view. Please answer this question: Which is the stronger bond upon any living being to keep him in any one place, desire, or compulsion?Hermogenes
Desire, Socrates, is much stronger.Socrates
Then do you not believe there would be many fugitives from Hades, if he did not bind with the strongest bond those who go to him there?Hermogenes
Of course there would.Socrates
Apparently, then, if he binds them with the strongest bond, he binds them by some kind of desire, not by compulsion.Hermogenes
Yes, that is plain.Socrates
There are many desires, are there not?Hermogenes
Yes. [403d] Socrates
Then he binds with the desire which is the strongest of all, if he is to restrain them with the strongest bond.Hermogenes
Yes.Socrates
And is there any desire stronger than the thought of being made a better man by association with some one?Hermogenes
No, by Zeus, Socrates, there certainly is not.Socrates
Then, Hermogenes, we must believe that this is the reason why no one has been willing to come away from that other world, not even the Sirens, but they and all others have been overcome by his enchantments, [403e] so beautiful, as it appears, are the words which Hades has the power to speak; and from this point of view this god is a perfect sophist and a great benefactor of those in his realm, he who also bestows such great blessings upon us who are on earth; such abundance surrounds him there below, and for this reason he is called Pluto. Then, too, he refuses to consort with men while they have bodies, but only accepts their society
