Once when talking with the son of the great Pericles, he said: “For my part, Pericles, I feel hopeful that, now you have become general, our city will be more efficient and more famous in the art of war, and will defeat our enemies.”“I could wish,” answered Pericles, “that it might be as you say, Socrates; but how these changes are to come about I cannot see.”“Should you like to discuss them with me, then,” said Socrates, “and consider how they can be brought about?”“I should.”
Xenophon. Xenophon in Seven Volumes, 4. E. C. Marchant. Harvard University Press, Cambridge, MA; William Heinemann, Ltd., London. 1923.
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