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[968c] that is what we have now got to discover and state.

Athenian
It is not possible at this stage, Megillus and Clinias, to enact laws for such a body, before it has been duly framed; when it is, its members must themselves ordain what authority they should possess; but it is already plain that what is required in order to form such a body, if it is to be rightly formed, is teaching by means of prolonged conferences.

Clinias
How so? What now are we to understand by this observation?

Athenian
Surely we must first draw up a list

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