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[583e] “And so,” I said, “when a man's delight comes to an end, the cessation of pleasure will be painful.” “It may be so,” he said. “What, then,we just now described as the intermediate state between the two—this quietude—will sometimes be both pain and pleasure.” “It seems so” “Is it really possible for that which is neither to become both1?” “I think not.” “And further, both pleasure and pain arising in the soul are a kind of motion,2 are they not?”

1 Cf. Phileb. 43 E, Hipp. Maj. 300 B f.

2 Aristotle attacks this doctrine with captious dialectic in his Topics and De anima.

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