[430d]
“Two things
still remain,” said I, “to make out in our city,
soberness1 and the object of the whole
inquiry, justice.” “Quite so.” “If
there were only some way to discover justice so that we need not further
concern ourselves about soberness.” “Well, I, for my
part,” he said, “neither know of any such way nor would
I wish justice to be discovered first if that means that we are not to go on
to the consideration of soberness. But if you desire to please me, consider
this before that.” “It would certainly
1 Matthew Arnold's word. But cf. on 398 D and 430 E—“sobriety,” “temperance,” “Besonnenheit.”
Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.
The Annenberg CPB/Project provided support for entering this text.
Purchase a copy of this text (not necessarily the same edition) from Amazon.com
This work is licensed under a
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States License.
An XML version of this text is available for download, with the additional restriction that you offer Perseus any modifications you make. Perseus provides credit for all accepted changes, storing new additions in a versioning system.