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he said, “if I show you another
answer about justice differing from all these, a better one—what
penalty do you think you deserve?” “Why, what
else,” said I, “than that which it befits anyone who is
ignorant to suffer? It befits him, I presume, to learn from the one who does
know. That then is what I propose that I should suffer.”
“I like your simplicity,”1 said he;
“but in addition to 'learning' you must pay a fine of
money.” “Well, I will when I have got it,” I
said. “It is there,” said Glaucon: “if money
is all that stands in the way, Thrasymachus, go on with your speech. We will
all contribute for Socrates.” “Oh yes, of
course,”
1 In “American,” “nerve.” Socrates' statement that παθεῖν“due him” is μαθεῖν(gratis) affects Thrasymachus as the dicasts were affected by the proposal in the Apology that his punishment should be—to dine at the City Hall. The pun on the legal formula could be remotely rendered: “In addition to the recovery of your wits, you must pay a fine.” Plato constantly harps on the taking of pay by the Sophists, but Thrasymachus is trying to jest, too.
Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.
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