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[344e] and not the entire conduct of life that for each of us would make living most worth while?” “Well, do I deny it?”1 said Thrasymachus. “You seem to,” said I, “or else2 to care nothing for us and so feel no concern whether we are going to live worse or better lives in our ignorance of what you affirm that you know. Nay, my good fellow, do your best to make the matter clear to us also:

1 Plainly a protesting question, “Why, do I think otherwise?” Cf. 339 D.

2 For the impossibility of J. and C.'s “or rather” see my note in A.J.P. vol. xiii. p. 234.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.

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