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[516d]

Callicles
Then be it so.

Socrates
And if wilder, more unjust and worse?

Callicles
Be it so.

Socrates
Then Pericles was not a good statesman, by this argument.

Callicles
You at least say not.

Socrates
And you too, I declare, by what you admitted. And now about Cimon once more, tell me, did not the people whom he tended ostracize him in order that they might not hear his voice for ten years? And Themistocles, did they not treat him in just the same way, and add the punishment of exile?


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