Plato, Charmides, section 161a

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[161a] I think so.

Well then, I said, are you not convinced that Homer is right in saying—“Modesty, no good mate for a needy man?
”Hom. Od. 17.347

I am, he said.

Then it would seem that modesty is not good, and good.

Apparently.

But temperance is good, if its presence makes men good, and not bad.

It certainly seems to me to be as you say.

So temperance cannot be modesty, if it

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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