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[130d] when we have discovered the thing that we passed over just now because it would involve much consideration.

Alcibiades
What is that?

Socrates
The point suggested in that remark a moment ago,1 that we should first consider the same-in-itself; but so far, instead of the same, we have been considering what each single thing is in itself. And perhaps we shall be satisfied with that: for surely we cannot say that anything has more absolute possession of ourselves than the soul.

Alcibiades
No, indeed.

Socrates
And it is proper to take the view that you and I are conversing with each other, while we make use of words, by intercourse of soul with soul?

Alcibiades
Quite so.


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