Plato, Alcibiades 1, section 125c

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[125c]

Socrates
Doing nothing, or doing something?

Alcibiades
Doing something, I say.

Socrates
Doing what? Try and let me know.

Alcibiades
Well, men who do business with each other and make use of one another, as is our way of life in our cities.

Socrates
Then you speak of ruling over men who make use of men?

Alcibiades
Yes.

Socrates
Over boatswains who make use of rowers?

Alcibiades
No, no.

Socrates
Because that is the pilot's distinction?

Alcibiades
Yes.

Socrates
Well, do you mean ruling over men who are flute-players,

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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