Plato, Alcibiades 1, section 108d

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[108d]

Socrates
I do. Now, just think, and say by what name the art is called after them.

Alcibiades
Music,¹ I suppose you mean.

Socrates
Yes, I do. And what is that which proceeds correctly by its rule? As in the other case I was correct in mentioning to you gymnastic as that which goes by the art, so I ask you, accordingly, what you say in this case. What manner of proceeding is required?

Alcibiades
A musical one, I suppose.

Socrates
You are right. Come then, what is it that you term “better,” in respect of what is better in waging war and being at peace?

1 “Music” with the Greeks included poetry and dancing as well as our “music.”

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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