[267a]
Socrates
Of course. And he tells how refutation and further refutation must be accomplished, both in accusation and in defence. Shall we not bring the illustrious Parian, Evenus, into our discussion, who invented covert allusion and indirect praises? And some say that he also wrote indirect censures, composing them in verse as an aid to memory; for he is a clever man. And shall we leave Gorgias and Tisias undisturbed, who saw that probabilities are more to be esteemed than truths, who make small things seem great and great things small [267b] by the power of their words, and new things old and old things the reverse, and who invented conciseness of speech and measureless length on all subjects? And once when Prodicus heard these inventions, he laughed, and said that he alone had discovered the art of proper speech, that discourses should be neither long nor short, but of reasonable length.Phaedrus
O Prodicus! How clever!Socrates
And shall we not mention Hippias, our friend from Elis? I think he would agree with him.Phaedrus
Oh yes. [267c] Socrates
And what shall we say of Polus and his shrines of learned speech, such as duplication and sententiousness and figurativeness, and what of the names with which Licymnius presented him to effect beautiful diction?Phaedrus
Were there not some similar inventions of Protagoras, Socrates?Socrates
Yes, my boy, correctness of diction, and many other fine things. For tearful speeches, to arouse pity for old age and poverty, I think the precepts of the mighty Chalcedonian hold the palm, and he is also a genius, [267d] as he said, at rousing large companies to wrath, and soothing them again by his charms when they are angry, and most powerful in devising and abolishing calumnies on any grounds whatsoever. But all seem to be in agreement concerning the conclusion of discourses, which some call recapitulation, while others give it some other name.Phaedrus
You mean making a summary of the points of the speech at the end of it, so as to remind the hearers of what has been said?Socrates
These are the things I mean, these and anything else you can mention concerned with the art of rhetoric.Phaedrus
There are only little things, not worth mentioning.
Of course. And he tells how refutation and further refutation must be accomplished, both in accusation and in defence. Shall we not bring the illustrious Parian, Evenus, into our discussion, who invented covert allusion and indirect praises? And some say that he also wrote indirect censures, composing them in verse as an aid to memory; for he is a clever man. And shall we leave Gorgias and Tisias undisturbed, who saw that probabilities are more to be esteemed than truths, who make small things seem great and great things small [267b] by the power of their words, and new things old and old things the reverse, and who invented conciseness of speech and measureless length on all subjects? And once when Prodicus heard these inventions, he laughed, and said that he alone had discovered the art of proper speech, that discourses should be neither long nor short, but of reasonable length.Phaedrus
O Prodicus! How clever!Socrates
And shall we not mention Hippias, our friend from Elis? I think he would agree with him.Phaedrus
Oh yes. [267c] Socrates
And what shall we say of Polus and his shrines of learned speech, such as duplication and sententiousness and figurativeness, and what of the names with which Licymnius presented him to effect beautiful diction?Phaedrus
Were there not some similar inventions of Protagoras, Socrates?Socrates
Yes, my boy, correctness of diction, and many other fine things. For tearful speeches, to arouse pity for old age and poverty, I think the precepts of the mighty Chalcedonian hold the palm, and he is also a genius, [267d] as he said, at rousing large companies to wrath, and soothing them again by his charms when they are angry, and most powerful in devising and abolishing calumnies on any grounds whatsoever. But all seem to be in agreement concerning the conclusion of discourses, which some call recapitulation, while others give it some other name.Phaedrus
You mean making a summary of the points of the speech at the end of it, so as to remind the hearers of what has been said?Socrates
These are the things I mean, these and anything else you can mention concerned with the art of rhetoric.Phaedrus
There are only little things, not worth mentioning.
