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Socrates
However, go on and tell about the third. Has mind or pleasure the greater share in beauty?

Protarchus
But Socrates, no one, either asleep or awake, ever saw or knew wisdom or mind to be or become unseemly at any time or in any way whatsoever.

Socrates
Right.

Protarchus
But pleasures, and the greatest pleasures at that, when we see any one enjoying them and observe the ridiculous or utterly disgraceful element which accompanies them,


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