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[46a]

Protarchus
Yes, we must.

Socrates
Now see what there is about the pleasures which are related to certain diseases.

Protarchus
What diseases?

Socrates
Repulsive diseases which the philosophers of dislike whom we mentioned utterly abominate.

Protarchus
What are the pleasures?

Socrates
For instance, the relief of the itch and the like by scratching, no other treatment being required. For in HeavenÕs name what shall we say the feeling is which we have in this case? Is it pleasure or pain?

Protarchus
I think, Socrates, it is a mixed evil.


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