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[43c]

Socrates
A better and more unassailable statement would be this.

Protarchus
What?

Socrates
That the great changes cause pains and pleasures in us, but the moderate and small ones cause no pains or pleasures at all.

Protarchus
That is more correct than the other statement, Socrates.

Socrates
But if that is the case, the life of which we spoke just now would come back again.

Protarchus
What life?

Socrates
The life which we said was painless and without joys.

Protarchus
Very true.

Socrates
Let us, therefore, assume three lives,


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