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[41b] for this may help us to reach our decisions.

Protarchus
Yes, of course; that is, if such pleasures exist.

Socrates
But they do exist, Protarchus, in my opinion; however, until we have established the truth of this opinion, it cannot be unquestioned.

Protarchus
Good.

Socrates
Then let us, like athletes, approach and grapple with this new argument.

Protarchus
Let us do so.

Socrates
We said, you may remember, a little while ago,


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