Plato, Philebus, section 36e

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[36e]

Socrates
Now tell me; for I am always utterly amazed by the same questions we were just proposing.

Protarchus
What do you mean?

Socrates
Are not some pleasures false and others true?

Protarchus
How could that be?

Socrates
Then, as you maintain, nobody, either sleeping or waking or insane or deranged, ever thinks he feels pleasure when he does not feel it, and never, on the other hand, thinks he suffers pain when he does not suffer it?

Protarchus
We have, Socrates, always believed that all this is as you suggest.

Socrates
But is the belief correct? Shall we consider whether it is so or not?

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.

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