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[32d] whether the entire class is to be desired or such desirability is rather to be attributed to some other class among those we have mentioned, whereas pleasure and pain, like heat, cold, and other such things, are sometimes desirable and sometimes undesirable, because they are not good themselves, though some of them sometimes admit on occasion the nature of the good.

Protarchus
You are quite right in saying that we must track our quarry on this trail.

Socrates
First, then, let us agree on this point: If it is true,


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