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Socrates
Now who is likely to know whether the proper form of shuttle is embodied in any piece of wood? The carpenter who made it, or the weaver who is to use it ?Hermogenes
Probably the one who is to use it, Socrates.Socrates
Then who is to use the work of the lyre-maker? Is not he the man who would know best how to superintend the making of the lyre and would also know whether it is well made or not when it is finished?Hermogenes
Certainly.Socrates
Who is he?Hermogenes
The lyre-player.Socrates
And who would know best about the work of the ship-builder?
Now who is likely to know whether the proper form of shuttle is embodied in any piece of wood? The carpenter who made it, or the weaver who is to use it ?Hermogenes
Probably the one who is to use it, Socrates.Socrates
Then who is to use the work of the lyre-maker? Is not he the man who would know best how to superintend the making of the lyre and would also know whether it is well made or not when it is finished?Hermogenes
Certainly.Socrates
Who is he?Hermogenes
The lyre-player.Socrates
And who would know best about the work of the ship-builder?